Harry Turner
Welcome seekers of truth to another season of "Is That SOO?" Here we embark on the journey together a quest not just for answers, for the right questions that lead us to the core of who we are. Season Four unfolds with many insights and revelations that challenge us to peel away the facades and meet our authentic selves. Let's be illuminated, transformed, and indeed become lit. The knowledge of our true selves. Welcome outlier. Again, welcome. Welcome. Welcome to the set. And please, excuse me, if I mess up the name neuron John nota easy
Naranjan Nota
Naranjan. That's it. It's real simple, right? People get overwhelmed with elbows, always the vows.
Harry Turner
Yeah, you know, I saw three ends, and I was about 40. And with last name, and I was like, I'm not gonna get to do this. This is
Naranjan Nota
simple, we just break it down.
Harry Turner
Well, thank you for being on the set. And I'm really excited to have this session with you. You're just saying session, it is a session for me. But I'm excited to have you on set. So if you don't mind, can you tell the people a little bit about yourself? I'm gonna step out for a second and let you talk, you know, talk directly.
Naranjan Nota
Okay. Well, first, thank you for having me on your show. I appreciate the invitation and the opportunity to share to your people and anybody else who's listening and keen to keen to listen, good to learn. Yes. My name is Niranjan. I'm the owner and founder of a company called bright shining light, I stepped into the world of spirituality probably don't even remember. But I know it's been an integral part of who I am, what I am and what I stand for. So I support individuals on their soul evolution. And they start with the seat of their soul. And how that translates out into life experiences, and we unravel and unwrap all the happiness, all the big life lessons that we are here to learn through one experience at a time. And I guide them through the process so they can enhance their own intuition to recognize what their own truth is, and clear out the emotional and energetic clutter that we are surrounded by in in, in this world that we live in. So they can truly hear what their soul is whispering to them. I feel like that is my gift. That is my purpose. And that is one a part of what I'm here to do to guide others on their path. Does it mean I've reached the the top of the mountain myself? No, I'm still climbing too. But I've climbed so much so I can support others on their path and journey.
Harry Turner
This is good. I would like to begin by asking you. Could you share with us your personal definition of living in truth and how it has shaped your journey both personally and professionally? Again, let me just preface with living in truth. You know, that's that's the motto here. stay lit, you know, live in truth because a lack of authenticity is like skillfully practicing living through your values. And so you have to live in your truth. For me living in truth is remaining in alignment with who you truly are. So if, if you don't mind, could you elaborate basically, on your personal definition of living in truth, living
Naranjan Nota
in truth is unwrapping and unlearning and then tethering to many of the experiences that we get to live in a live through as we grow up as children as adults, young adults and through adult life, the opinions and judgments of others, and unwrapping them to making sure we're not living our life based on other people's objectives. So for me, it was a real hard look at what's showing up in my life. And is it true for me? And it sounds really casual and really easy to say, is it true for me, but when we've been ingrained with such a belief system of this is what life should look like to detach and transform the relationships with these people call family, colleagues, friends, and unwrap that untether from it so you're in your own sphere, then you can be in a position to say, Okay, this is my truth because I can identify a witness what their truth is for them. Ah,
Harry Turner
sounds like you're riding upon I love it. I love it. It's beautiful. for, well, what was a pivotal moment in your life that led you to fully embrace living in truth? And how did you transform your approach to spiritual spirituality in coaching?
Naranjan Nota
I think any pivotal moment as we put it really doesn't isn't a pivotal moment. It's a, it's the tipping point. Because we all have had experiences where something's like, ah, that doesn't feel right. But we'll just, we'll just charge on and we'll just continue. Again, and again, and again, until it gets really loud. It's almost like that saying, the straw that broke the camel's back. So for me, I know you're gonna ask me that. That's okay. And that's okay. I'm happy to share. For me, it was a number of things of watching what was happening in my professional life, but also watching what was happening in my personal life. And that was a myriad of things of being an immigrant in Canada. I was born and raised in Britain. So now I live in Canada in Toronto, been an immigrant and what does that look like? In the community? Yes, it's English speaking and all of those things. But the new one says to be with my family, all of those pieces, were mild, life lessons to say, is that your truth? And how much does it matter, those experiences got bigger and bigger, and louder and louder to the point of my connection with myself. And this bigger energy, whatever you want to call that divine God love source universe, whatever you want to call, it got louder for me to say, you need to follow this. Not that. That's when I made some really big changes in my life, from relationships to the type of work that I do, where I live, how I eat, sleep, and breathe. That's when I said at the beginning, I truly do feel like this is my calling. And that was the bigger message and sign of, here's one really big step and we're gonna amplify and grow from that as time continues, and, you know, seven, eight years, 10 years later, I'm still growing and that jumping from LeapFrog path to another, it's changing of life, we evolve and we change on the grow.
Harry Turner
The quote, the commoner had earlier spiritual beings having a human experience. This, you know, very much speaks on a pivotal moment for me. And I remember distinctly, I was a security officer. And I was arguing I was going into my little rebel, I was in my rebel phase of, like, Christianity. And I remember walking at Arjuna hospital, on the west bank in New Orleans. And I'm in the front, I remember exactly where it happened. That is crazy. My memory is not the best. But I was arguing basically, a call myself arguing with God, and it was like, this makes no sense. How can I love my neighbor as myself, you know, I don't even know them. You know, like, these things are ridiculous. And insight hit me immediately. And it was basically, it's so it's so crazy. It's like a stream of consciousness hit me at that moment. And it was, you can love your neighbor as yourself, when you begin to love yourself. When you love yourself, your vision is gonna change, you're gonna begin to see that the your neighbor is no more than a different version of you. And as your love you, you have no choice but to love your neighbor, because they are you just a different version. And that came in, right when I was upset and arguing. And I know that in that energy, especially considering how sincere I was about how silly I was a statement, I thought it was at that moment, that stream of consciousness was not that that came from somewhere else, you know, and yeah, that bad begin. I was like, Okay, let me let me see how, okay, you're there. I know you've been there. Let's continue this dialogue. And then it was just synchronicity after synchronicity is the main language that notice the synchronicity, synchronicity after synchronicity leading me down a certain path and yeah, I've been following it ever since. I'm sorry. What were you about to say? It's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, it is. When I think back on it, I feel like yeah, pretty appreciative. Grateful, honored, humbled, because in many ways, I feel like, special I know, we all are, but I feel like, you know, when someone singles you out, you know, and does things for you, you know, you sort of kind of feel that specialness. That's, that's what I've been feeling. You know, ever since then, you know, okay,
Naranjan Nota
It's an it's a beautiful example of something that happens. And now your awareness has expanded to now, you're more open to seeing those synchronicities that probably happened before.
Harry Turner
And as the saying goes, I was I once was blind, but now I see, you know, they've been, they've been many moments, I realized. So it's, it's, it's like, the more that you know, ultimately, you get to a point where you realize, yeah, and then you just surrender the need to even need to know.
Naranjan Nota
You just become the instrument. That's
Harry Turner
right. Because I don't know. So, you know, I'm just, you know, like you said, I'm the instrument. Okay. So in your experience, what are the common barriers people face when trying to align with their authentic selves? And how do you guide them in overcoming these obstacles?
Naranjan Nota
The common experience that people recruits have had, there was one who wanted to control everything, to control the outcome of her children, her work, her environment, her family, the whole gamut, everything had to be within her arm's reach. And when it didn't go that way, then it got really upsetting for her. But what we know is we're not really in control, and unwrapping all of those pieces while working with her, it really identified that what you're wanting to control, there was a buffer, for things to do, people to control to have an element of power, was in wrapping the element of really how much power she didn't have of herself, and how much love she didn't have for herself. So the confidence looked like it was there on the outside, by being involved in other people's relationships and family and experiences. But the confidence wasn't from coming from within. And that's where there was, there's been lots of shifts with many of my clients, they have more confidence, once you get confidence from within, then you can have a much more genuine and authentic and much deeper enriched relationship with others. Okay, so it is your kids, your colleagues, the person who's checking your groceries out at the store, the depth of connection and gratitude that you can feel when somebody does something for you or does not. That deepens. And ultimately, as that comment, you flashed up earlier, we're here to experience all of that. So it's the whole gamut of confidence to enhancing their own intuition and being really being kinder to themselves. Because they can be can be kind to somebody else, and say all those loving and supporting things.
Harry Turner
Yeah. And we struggle with ourselves that trance of unworthiness, the Dr. Tara brach will put it, you know, oftentimes I tell my clients that I can only give, we can only give what we have. And so, even if the hatred is is geared towards, you know, we, there's real suppression and repression, there's expression in escapism. So even if we internalize it, you know, and become martyrs for own pain, understand that we cannot give what we don't have. So we can love to a certain extent, but that extent is limited, capped off to the extent that we love ourselves, you know, and it's hard to see, it's hard to see that. So a lot of our solutions will be resolved a lot about conundrums, issues problems will be resolved simply by focusing on the self, you know, and then the true self, you know, which is requires a certain level for me, it's required a certain level of transcending the illusionary self, the varied self, the self that really doesn't exist, the projection of self, you know, but that's further down the road. But it's an immediate, just practicing like what you said, being compassionate, being kind learning those things. I love nonviolent communication NVC because I believe that there really is a an evolved language based on kindness and compassion. So doing those things, it helps to cultivate that energy of love and kindness and compassion inside of us and you just continue to evolve, you know, is what I say to my my people, you know, So, thank you for that. I have another question on spirituality for you. How does spirituality contribute to our understanding and embodiment of living in truth? Can someone be authentic without a spiritual practice?
Naranjan Nota
Regardless of what you call it, spirituality, or not? If you can be in a place of listening to your own heart, and come from a place of empathy, for self, current self past self, five minutes ago, three years ago, 10 years ago, can I be compassionate to that person? Yeah. That in itself, to me, is an element of spirituality, having an understanding of something bigger is at the helm. But it doesn't mean where are following we have the helm. We're an aspect of that. What do you call it spirituality. You can call it straight physics, everything is energy, and everything that's energy will vibrate. So the vibrational frequency that we tap into of law, empathy and compassion is on a hiring scale, or frequency. When we operate our lives from that, life looks very different engagement interactions, how we feel within ourselves, and how we move through the world. Very different.
Harry Turner
Wherever attention goes, energy flows. Spirit itself is energy. And since everything is energy, everything has a spiritual component to it, or is spirit essentially manifested into this collapse into something that could be observed the same way particles collapse, in order to be observed, you know, we, the way I see us is we are particles that we collapse in order to be observed. Rumi said, you know, we think that we are one drop in the ocean when we are the entire ocean, and one drop, you know. And so this, we forget that, you know, that's the feats, the whole illusion of separateness. So spirituality, for me is just an acknowledgement of our true nature. Our true nature, which is a spiritual one, and we all connected when you operate from spiritual, which is what I call moving from high level to Sky level, from Sky level, you can see that we all connected, more deeply spiritual people, quote, unquote, they see the connectedness with all human beings. And that's where you see the inspiration for a lot of great leaders like you, even though it's controversial. Now, for me, Mahatma Gandhi, MLK, you know, humans are humans. So I don't I don't you know, but you see the connectedness that they bring this, this this passion for all people, you know, so you're moving from I, me, me, me, me, it's all about me, to the sky, and you see the expansive view? And it's like, no, that's me. And that's me. And that's me. And that personal would have had it. I don't like that's me and that person that, you know, at one point in time, I wanted to throw a pitchfork at that's me to all of it is me. You know, all of it is us. Miss Walker said Harry opened my eyes so much to my own spiritual. I appreciate you, I appreciate you. And of course, you know, she she's, she must be talking about his that so. But I appreciate you, I appreciate you so much, Miss Walker. All right. Next question is, you've mentioned the importance of self discovery and living authentically, can you share some practical steps our listeners can take to start this journey. define
Naranjan Nota
and determine what a quiet place is for you. They're going out into the woods, be it sitting on your couch with no external distractions. Find that quiet place and listen. Listen to your heart. Listen to that beautiful little whisper, which is going to be your intuition. Listen, to be open to hearing that of what's what's be communicated to you. Be it from your higher self, be it from another source, and learn the new language of listening and tuning into what's yours. And what's the narrative that's being projected on media or another person coming from a belief system from when you were six. It's through the element of listening and introspection. This is where we get to that place of this is my authentic self. But then I beg the question even further, when you come to that realization, question it? Is it really your authentic self? Or have you been told that, so challenging all the belief systems that have been ingrained so deeply, that consciously we don't really get to see them? Because we live in a world going, okay, that cause me pain, I don't want to look at that. So that sits in the unconscious mind. But when we get to a place of expanding our awareness and say, Look, I'm open and curious, show me and synchronicities show up, then that unconscious experience now becomes available to be conscious. So now you're ready to receive that place, learning that new language and honoring yourself the gift to enhance that, that language, that connection.
Harry Turner
Thank you, for me.
So if, if we're speaking, practically, we can begin many places, the place that you mentioned, about sitting still, you know, I would tell my clients in my practice, that the reason why mindfulness is so hard is because silence is noisy. But if you sit still, patients is the capacity to hold pain or discomfort for an extended period of time without becoming dismayed. If you sit patiently, that noise will subside. That's the final wall. Behind that noise, there's a stillness. And when you finally reach that stillness, that stillness will speak to you.
That that part, at least, this has been my experience with meditation, and is also practical meditations like 54321 a grounding exercise five things, you can see four things, you know, there's hundreds, if not 1000s, of different meditations out there, you know, but really, to see self when I'm, when I'm seeking self, I have to be centered, you know, because state dictates story. You know, there's a polyvagal theory said that. So if I'm in a fight or flight state, and I'm trying to see myself I won't, I will see that version of myself from that fear rooted state. And spirit is not energized by fear, the ego in the mind is energized by fear, the spirit is energized by love. So it's, it's still enough until I reach that that frequency. But there's other practical things such as rain, you know, the rain, meditation, recognize, accept, investigate with curiosity, and then nurture, or what I'd like to say is, well, there's nurture non identification, you know, depending on what style you want to do. For me, I like non identification. So my saying to remind myself of that is ordinary English. Nevermind that shit. That's what, that's what I say, that helps me to determine immediately, like, it's okay, we got here, we got here. Maybe second, that's not an alignment. That's not something significant. And if you stare at it, we have attention goes energy flows. And so if you're staring at it, you're declaring it significant, because you're intentionally staring at it, Harry. Now, let's never mind that, and let's move this way. You know, it's sort of kind of like, let's, let's not think of an elephant, don't think of an elephant, don't think of an elephant, we will be thinking about that entire time. Because whatever you resist persists, you know, so instead, we do this, we choose another route, and we have attention goes energy flows. So using those laws of energy, you know, for me really understanding the laws of energy and then using them. That has been a game changer for me, you know, but there's so many practical I would definitely for for those y'all listening, I would definitely encourage you to get a guide. Like even the wisest people have wise guides with them all night, it's, most of us will want to do it on ourselves. We are very individualistic society. But I'm telling you that the wisest, even the wisest of us, they seek out wise guide, it's because there are certain points where you just too close to the sun. And it benefits you to have someone who can be there to help guide you, you know, as you go along your path. Anything more you wanted to say about that, before I move into my next question for you.
Naranjan Nota
I don't want to take it off on a tangent, that there is an addition, please. The addition is I'm a believer, I've seen it in my own life. I've seen it in many of my clients lives and experiences. Everything shows up into our awareness for a reason. So in the same token of everything that we focus on will expand. We know that because it's one on one, right? Why is it showing up? Why is it evoking an emotion? Yeah, I don't want Yes, I could totally do. I don't want to feel that pain from that. So I'm not going to focus on it. I'm not going to amplify so I'm was gonna look over there. But why did that show up in the first place? Why did I have to go through that experience in the first place? That's, that's the bigger work. We can continue to change the channel and have shiny object syndrome. Shiny Object could do that. But we are. There's a number of things that's also referred to as spiritual bypassing, hmm. So we can do that. But those things that we are bypassing and not wanting to look at, will get louder and louder and louder because our soul is begging for our attention. Until it's so loud, it's right in front of us. And there's no light. For us to have that shiny object moment. We're in the depth of this big life lesson that also wants us to have a look at it. So yes, as a very small coping mechanism, we can say yes, okay, that's an experience. I don't want to focus on it right now. And I don't want to look at it because I'm doing X Y, Zed. Okay, we do the X Y Zed, we go home at night, and we go, okay, what was that that showed up? Because I've got to unravel that because it showed up for a reason. That is, to me the true work of some do the true actions of somebody working through their emotional experiences.
Harry Turner
I tell my people lean into your discomfort. Freedom exists on the other side of your fears, lean into your discomfort, Never waste your pain. And I will quote my favorite author of oftentimes I would say, pain is the breaking of the shell that encloses your understanding. It's the bit of potion I wish the doctor within heals your sick cells to drink the potion and peace and tranquility. So why is this showing up for me? Why is it showing up for me? Why is this because if you don't, if we don't lean into that, and get that truth that this situation is, is yielding itself shining and trying to get us to grab hold of, than we were asking for in a reenactment. Because you don't pass that board just like a video game, you don't pass that board into your past that board he could put down the joystick, you can put on a joystick and walk away for years. If you pick back up that joystick in that game, you can see right there that board the board doesn't care how would you feel about it? This is where it is. And so you lean into that, you know, and discover your truth. For me, it's all about that. So it's all about love, ultimately the love and truth are married. And so discovering your truth that makes you free you from the non truths and we've been operating in we're born tabula rasa, you know, and definitely beginning with the terrible tools when the ego was on full fleek when he finally like we finally have okay, this is this is me and you can see the birth of the ego with the terrible twos you know, this mean mind and, you know, self preservation
like Marianne Williamson said, it's about a return back to love. And so we're born tabula rasa, we learn how to navigate into in this in this planet, even though we're aliens, we learn to navigate in this plan, and then we learn that wait a second, this is this is a reflection, or projection of self, but not truly self. What is this? You know, who am I? That's a spiritual question. What's my purpose? That's a spiritual question. You know, spirit is energy. And so when you move back to like, what Miss Walker was saying before earlier in the very beginning, spiritual beings having a human experience when you look from that perspective, now you move to Sky level, you know, but my this entire year, I said that the purpose I have I own protocol is called the lit effect. And I have five lit factors, but it's all about moving from high level the sky level. Because when we see from Sky level, we can see that panoramic view, it's more expansive, you know, and it really is truly like an unfolding. I can continue to go on and on about this, but I'm gonna stop, right. So could you elaborate? Because healing trauma is a significant aspect of your work? How does addressing healing past wounds, aid individuals and living more truthfully,
Naranjan Nota
I often use the analogy of when we are born we are born with, alright, we're going to have this human experience. Let's get on for the ride. And we put on this thing called a backpack. And we have these experiences and every time there is a difficult one, it creates a heaviness and that becomes a rock. Like okay, that that was painful. I don't want to look at that. We're just gonna throw it in the backpack. Oh, We go through life carrying all these rocks that sit in our backpack. So as we get older through life, we have all these aches and pains on a physical on a physical plane. Because we haven't cleared all the emotional experiences that were heavy, don't want to look at that we throw behind that guy. Now, I want to look at that. But we still carry in it. So all that to say, it's part of our life experiences to be witnessed that they experience, the emotion, the feelings. And what do I want to do with this rock? If I choose to look at it in this lifetime? Because not everybody does to courageous journey. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I answered your question, because I felt like I forgot it halfway through me answering the question.
Harry Turner
No, that happens to me all the time. But the question was, how does addressing healing past wounds, aid individuals and living more truthfully,
Naranjan Nota
right. So those are the wounds, these rocks are the big rooms that we have a once we are able to look at them from all facets of it's beautiful diamond, and then do that healing work of compassion of yes, this was a painful experience from XYZ person. And now I see and now I get to have a different relationship with it. Understand it on a deeper level, we go full circle on the energetics of the physical plane, the energetic plane and the earth plane. Because it's a very much a holistic journey. And we give that rock back metaphorically and literally, to Mother Earth, and only when she agrees, if you will, with your authenticity, and your genuineness of that healing, and that love, kindness and compassion to all of those that were involved in that experience. Then she accepts the rock goods the rock is accepted. Then on an energetic level, it shifts anything and everything that comes in our vibrational frequency. So now there's one less wait you'd rock the mega carriers and move through the next day.
Harry Turner
Carl Jung and upholstered and many times until the unconscious becomes conscious, it will direct your life you will call it fate. My people you deal with your wounds to traumas or they deal with you. Yeah, because you begin to see life through the pain body, you know, but let me continue on with these questions. Could you elaborate on the concept of spiritual psychology? P S? I KOLGY? Can you elaborate on the concept of spiritual psychology in its relevance to living in truth? No particular
Naranjan Nota
spelling? I have not come across.
Harry Turner
Oh, okay. All right. Oh,
Naranjan Nota
psychology? No, I have not. But what I can say is ultimately, regardless of the author, the practice the principles or tools, because we know there's many of them out there, in this big, beautiful world, everybody's going to put a different slant on coming back home, to your heart, to your healing, and to what are we here to do. And that's going to speak to everybody differently, based on their likes, their dislikes, all of those pieces. So for me, wherever that looks like in terms of spirituality, religion, we're all going to come back to the heart. And if you can come back to the heart, job done.
Harry Turner
The longest distance any of us will take as a distance we are here in our hearts, but that's truly the journey. That's truly the journey. For those who are new to these concepts, it actually does answer this question. Well, for those who are new to these concepts, what are some daily practices or habits that can help someone start living in truth? You've been talking about it the whole time,
Naranjan Nota
the heart, but perhaps this is an interesting one to notice what you notice. So you notice the narrative. When you look at a person when you hear a dialogue? When you hear a discussion, when you see an image? You notice the narrative that's running here. Notice it. That's the first step. Pretty much like what happened to you, you became once you notice that you became aware of it, once we become aware of what we can and become unaware of anything. And I would say incur reach individuals to expand that awareness. Often we have a peripheral vision of just what's in front of us, the invitation is here to expand that, let's open that up a little bit further, and see what else is sitting in my peripheral that I can look at. And notice it. You don't have to engage with it. You don't have to sit in it. Just be observant.
Harry Turner
Awareness is key. Always. Awareness is key. That's why you know, so many of the practices, especially the most well known ones, the ones that teach at least, always begins with awareness. So what are you aware of recognize the emotion ring, recognize the emotion, you know, accept it, radical acceptance to be present with it without judging it without pushing or pulling, because whatever we resist persists. So we try to push things away and end up keeping up with us even more. So cementing the fact that it remain glued to us because we're interacting with it. And wherever attention goes, energy flows. So of course, I amplified by trying to resist it. You know, there are times where resistance is there. But it Life provides that naturally, because planes fly against the wind with it. And so you know, when it's that healthy resistance, versus there's you trying to resist the present moment? Oh, that's the resistance that you have to abandon the resistance of the present moment. I want you know, and I don't want, you know, okay, considering. So last two questions. Okay. How do you maintain your commitment to living in truth and face of societal pressures, or during challenging times,
Naranjan Nota
when you connect with an aspect of yourself that is so bright, that's so unconditionally loving, with a sense of leaning into that trust, and allowing life to unfold synchronicity, synchronistically, there's no doubt, there's no doubt that the path for myself is the path that I meant to be on. So I alluded to this earlier, it's a courageous journey. It's not an easy path to sit in a place, and have the conversation with individuals of all different sectors have ways of living titles, letters, behind their name, the whole gamut. But to come into a place and say, Yes, I work for the light. I work with energy in the form of Alchemist. That's my work, and having to meet people's judgments and expectations. But yet having compassion while you witness their judgment and experience, expectation within themselves, that's not mine. That's there's, it's a courageous path to sit in there. But in the same token, I've bent from one spectrum to the other. I've been in corporate, I know what that world's like, but I know I can transform and alchemize relationships, much smoother, less aggressively, in this world, spirit, get this thing called energy.
Harry Turner
So you've just changed my last question. For us, though, you use the word that that I Yeah, it's one of my main words alchemy. Tell me about your alchemy. Like, how that works for you. Like or rather? I'm sorry. Let me think about the broader audiences may not be familiar with it, can you explain alchemy for my audience, and basically how you apply
Naranjan Nota
my version of alchemy, which is no doubt going to be different than yours and every single other person on the planet, my version of alchemy is a transformation, a transformation of energy, transformation of experiences, and engagements. So when we are met with individuals who are projecting, controlling, expecting an outcome of an experience, being in a position to change the energy around that, to me is alchemy. In not from a place of ego of I'm controlling it, I know this thing called alchemy. Rather, what is the best outcome for everybody involved in this experience? Based on unconditional love? Yes, it could be painful for that person or for myself. I welcome that, because I know it's for my highest light If I can sit with that in mind, then I will continue to transform my relationship with others, where there may be an element of conflict, because my reaction isn't going to be there, if there is an element of conflict that they're expected. That's out coming to me
Harry Turner
for me, saying, you know, it's, and I tell my people never waste your pain. So how do you not waste that? Know that your pain has a purpose, it's easy to spot that if you go to the gym, you know, and that's why we can enjoy lifting weights because not that mighty don't like lifting weights doesn't like the pressure of that that's, that's all a mental thing. When we say, Oh, I love going to the gym, your body's like, no, no, like going to the gym. But that resistance is necessary for the growth, you know. So when we experience these pains, for whatever reason, when we lean into that, we can transmute that energy. So for me, the alchemy is the trends, mutation, and then transformation, of energy. And finally, transcend, we transcend, we transcend that board, maybe that board because we've extrapolated our truth. And in doing so we are more free to truly love and see through the lens of love. That's, for me, that's the indicator that that you are growing and continuing to evolve. If you ever wonder, as you become more expansive in the way that you view things, and you're viewing more things through the lens of love, as opposed to judgment. Condemnation is not liberated only further oppresses that CG young, you know, and so when you can love yourself, you know, you essentially invite all ports to port to use an internal family systems terminology, you will give everybody a seat at the table. From that space, you're far more empowered, because you cut yourself off from some of the greatest gifts that you can utilize to transmute this current situation. So just to love yourself and invite all parts in and hear what everybody has to say, you know, like that, in of itself is a transformational practice, you know? So, we are, I believe in alignment with our understanding of alchemy, you know. And lastly, I'll say that alchemy, also I tell my people that it's about, there's so many tools out there, but it's about knowing what tool to use what method to use, given the current situation, which requires certain discernment, the right tool at the right time, and use it in the right way. You know, oftentimes that will mentioned Bruce Lee and his three stages of self mastery, the natural undisciplined, and then the unnatural discipline, being a second moment stage to training. And then finally, the natural disciplines where now the neural pathways are formed. And the discipline path, it's the path of least resistance. And so it's just automatic, that's mastery mode. You know, it takes a while to get there, you know, but as long as you continue to hone in on these skills, build these skills of lean into your discomfort using these skills, naturally, you're going to become more skillful, because anything we do as a practice, and whatever we practice eventually becomes a program.
Naranjan Nota
That's right. And is the add on to that, if I may, please,
Harry Turner
please.
Naranjan Nota
The Alchemy piece is the transmutation also of all fragments of ourselves, past, present and future and that's when we have this beautiful gift to be able to transmute intergenerational trauma, bloodline trauma, lineage, and also land trauma, the trauma that's embedded in this beautiful mother earth. This vibrational energy that's vibrating and growing just as we are. We get to transform and alchemize anything and everything that we have connection to it. In the same token to alchemy, yes, we can do it on a physical plane here. But then it has this beautiful ripple effect out in the ethers. And then that's how the energy shifts, the whole butterfly effect. All those analogies come into play. But I wanted to add that piece about intergenerational trauma.
Harry Turner
I'm not sure how much you know about me, prior to this show, but I'm an traumatologist. I'm transitioning out of my practice now, but traumatologist and so I speak about intergenerational trauma oftentimes, and I assist. I find myself assisting clients oftentimes in seeing The opportunity in the moment, you know, they say the Chinese symbol for crisis is a combination of words danger and opportunity. Okay, there's an opportunity here, you know, because oftentimes it's it is one can, I can see the perspective of, well, why me? Why didn't my parents deal with this? Why did my grandparents deal with this? Like, why does it fall on me? That is a, for me moot point. The if we're embracing the present moment, it's here. Let's deal with it. And but of course, with that energy of intergenerational trauma, it's so strong, you know, it's, you know, it's embedded it just, it's part of that energetic just them coming to the world, it was already tied to them, you know, and then the the conditions and the experiences they've had with family, it just cemented those those that generational trauma. Epigenetics talks about it as well, you know, just see, Nancy turns on certain genes, you know, but we have to lean into it, again. Yes. And I find that those that have the, the, what seems like the most challenging situations or challenging energy to transmute, it's by design, oh, yeah, they are called, to do some amazingly great things. And if we, together if they really, but if we lean into that discomfort, and get that truth from these situations, because the past is only meant to be for reference, not residents, so we don't live there, or we get the truth. So we can stop staring at the crime scene, and, and holding on to all of these judgments we made about ourselves based off of certain circumstances and situations, all of that is nonsense, all of that is part of the matrix, all of that is part of the Maya, we have to let go of all of that. We don't let it go until we get our truth. And so that's why we lean into the discomfort. And I find that when we lean into the discomfort to get that truth, that truth, then makes us free, we can finally get free from the bounds of these limiting beliefs that we carry about ourselves and the world around us, we can stop operating, energized by the fear mind, the pain body, the ego, you know, it frees you up to operate from your authentic self, your spirit, you know, and even though I mean, I say this, because a lot of my clients are atheists. So I may not talk exactly like that, you know, I may say it a little bit more practical terms. But essentially, thank you, Haley, essentially, that's exactly where I'm leading everyone to, because that's been my path, and continues to be. That's why I know, it's all about leaning into that discomfort. I memorize certain quotes, because these quotes become my boundaries. So I don't go in the gutter. Because the ego has a different, it has a different objective there. Its objective is survival. If I were to say I had a goal, it's to live, right? Being alive in living, right?
This has been, huh. I would like to welcome you back. I'm in the process of creating, I'm talking I'm gonna talk it over with my managing a little bit. But I would like to create communities song has, I would like to create circles. And one of them I wanted to create is is that so circle? So we'd like to invite you back and have, you know, hopefully more guest on but in a private circle where we can just they can just ask us questions, ask you questions, and you know, if you would be willing to come back for that?
Naranjan Nota
Absolutely. Yes, absolutely. Thank you so much. Definitely.
Harry Turner
Sister, thank you so much for blessing and stage. And it's it's really been a pleasure having you and I had some difficulties in the beginning, but it is what it is. I
Naranjan Nota
see the magic that happened and in between. Hmm.
Harry Turner
I will let you. I'm gonna give you the stage one more time to let the people know where to find you. And anything else you wanted to leave him with no, jump back on. All right. Pol,
Naranjan Nota
thank you so much. For the delicious conversation. Thank you so much, Harry. Again, my name is Miranda. And if you're curious, to delve into the space of your own heart, to be more confident in your life and also enhance your own intuition. Whether you're a novice or whether you've been in the realms of energy for many years, I invite you to book a free consult a bright shining light.com And let's have a conversation and really amplify in your intuition and power. So you can move more authentically and genuinely through the world. Thank you.
Harry Turner
Thank you. And y'all, y'all know my mission is to assist others in developing the audacity to live unapologetically authentic and a life of authenticity is a life of skillfully practicing living through your values. Everything that we do as a practice, whether we conscious of it or not everything we do as a practice and whatever we practice eventually becomes a program. So it's about transmuting, transforming, and transcending evolving, anything not growing is dead and we ought to be growing into the day that we die. Outliers. Y'all know I have Mad Love and respect for y'all. Thank you sister again for blessing and stage I'm bringing on healers, people who are sincere and authentic and powerful beings that for this season, and so please go check out those links. I will have the links at the bottom once I added him and published this, this this this episode. But please check out her website if all the links check out the links you know, whatever links I put down and check them out. Connect be with authentic people. You know, we're stronger, we're stronger together. You know, iron sharpens iron, we can stay more in alignment, you know, whenever we are around people who are moving in the same direction. So allies Mad Love mad respect and Miss Walker. Thank you for commenting. I just want to highlight Ms. Walker real quick. Thank you for commenting Miss Walker, I appreciate you showing up for the for the live stream. And this the first time we did it. So you know you're part of your party history. Everybody here is a part of history right? So again, outliers, thank y'all so much, mad love, respect and stay lit as we continue another chapter of his debt so I hope our journey today has left you with more than just thoughts but a call to live intentionally, live intentionally deeply, authentically and truthfully. The path of self discovery of Self knowledge is infinite a labyrinth where each turn reveals more of who we are and can be that this conversation be a lantern in the dark guiding you back to yourself time and again until we meet next outlier. Continue to seek question and live in the profound truth that defines your existence. Agape and stay L.I.T. They've been through
