Harry Turner
Welcome seekers of truth to another season "Is That SOO?" Here we embark on the journey together a quest not just for answers, for the right questions that lead us to the core of who we are. Season Four unfolds with many insights and revelations that challenge us to peel away the facades and meet our authentic selves. Let's be illuminated, transformed, and indeed become lit. The knowledge of our true selves. Welcome outlier. Welcome to today's episode, where we have the privilege of hosting Angelou League, a renowned expert in the realm of personal branding and a champion of confidence and courage. Angela brings with her an impressive background that spans various aspects of psychology, marketing, and personal develop seamlessly blending these disciplines to empower individuals. She comes with a wealth of experience as she herself puts it, and I quote, with over 20,000 hours of public speaking experience, I'm an engaging guests with stories of confidence, courage, adventure and influence. Angela believes deeply in the power of living authentically and openly advocating for life where personal branding isn't just about the external facade, but about embodying one's truth in every aspect of life. So get ready for a conversation that will not only enlighten, but inspire you to live boldly and authentically. Now, this season, it's about staying late, or living in truth, you know, I say live in truth with which then begs the question, what is truth? And it's something that I've been studying more and more because there are layers to truth, you gotta go deeper and deeper, moving from eye level, the sky level. That's, that's exactly. I'm glad that just happened just now that aha moment. But that's exactly what this season is about. It's about being lit and moving from eye level, the sky level. So what is eye level, Eye level is that snapshot view of things. That's where we either in the victim mode, rescuer mode, or persecutor mode, it's about what's happening to me, it's the most limiting perspective one can have and operate from, and it's drive is the basic primal instincts would its core emotion being for fear, stop for a second. So eye level fear, Sky level, love, eye level, head, Sky level heart. And the longest distance any of us will ever travel is from our head down to our heart, but know that the head thinks, and the heart knows, that's what a journey gotta happen. So this season is about living in truth. Truth is the accurate description of the essence of a thing. And so oftentimes, many of us we live in non truth, you know, how can someone live in a non truth that they believe it to be true, because it's not really true for them, they just believe it to be true. And so much of our lives we spend live in a non truth until one day, that experience happens, where we get that insight from diving deeper. And then when we get that insight, we realize that this is a non truth, and we share that and then we operate in more truth. Living in truth is about living in alignment. It's about living authentically, because when we are aligned with truth, then we are operating in purpose, with passion, we have energy, we have a zeal for life. Because life is more than just earning a living, it's actually earning a life it's about moving from merely existing, which is what the ego wants you to do basic basic survival, merely existing to truly living and experiencing life and you've got to do so. Through living authentically. Again, my mission is to assist others in developing the audacity to live unapologetically authentic, and to live a life of authenticity is to live a life of skillfully practicing living through your values. So with that being said, I will invite my guests on Miss Angela Leigh. Hi,
Angela Legg
everybody. Thank you so much for having me. What an honor.
Harry Turner
I had to I had to.
Angela Legg
I love it. I love it. I love the vibe. Thank you so much as you're so insightful. I really love watching your content. And you're new to me. And I just love what you're talking about how you work with everybody, and you're really trying to actually change the world. And I love that. Aren't we all?
Harry Turner
Come on?
Angela Legg
Let's do it. Let's do it together.
Harry Turner
Yes, yes. Thank you. It's an honor to have you on and I appreciate you saying that I'm humbled but humbled by those words. And I've been hearing it and I'm My gift is pattern recognition. So I'm accepting it because I apparently I need to hear and accept exactly what you just said. So I appreciate the compliment. I'm gonna receive it from the heart instead of intellectualizing it from the head. Thank you. Absolutely.
Angela Legg
And it was 100% genuine so
Harry Turner
the best kinds as the best guys, the only
Angela Legg
time the only time and it's a blessing and a curse and I'm sure we'll touch on that I have a feeling that you and I are gonna have a great conversation tonight.
Harry Turner
Yes. Oh, yes. So before we begin because I have my list of questions for you Miss leg, I'm gonna step out for just a second and let you introduce yourself to the people and then just let them know waiting, you know? Well, you will wait, you know waiting to find you like good stuff, your passion, you know?
Angela Legg
Absolutely. So what's going on y'all? It's your girl Angela leg two G's. And my story is, you know, I died twice within the first 24 hours I was born. And I've been beating the odds ever since. And even at the age of 10 years old, I was very, very young. I was very, very aware of how powerful a personal brand kind of can be. And I was thrown into a new school, I lived in the burbs, so I was really the only black girl in my school. And so I didn't want to be known as being the black girl I love you know, my skin, my heritage, everything about it. But people like to use those types of things against people. And I didn't want that. And so I chose to stand out in otherwise in other ways that people weren't going to be able to hurt me. So I started dressing differently. I was loud, my wore two different colored socks, I took part in anything that I possibly could. And I made sure that people knew me for the things that I was good at. And that's really where personal branding really started for me. And I saw how powerful it was. And it really led to a whole journey of finding self awareness and traveling long and far to different countries to really expose my inner self, and challenge myself and challenge the fears that I had created in my head that had stopped me from doing all these amazing things in life, which I'm sure we all can relate. So here I am today helping a lot of other entrepreneurs, sales executives, anybody who's really a thought leader really trying to find their story and their message and tell it to the world because I think we all have something to give. And I want to be a catalyst for people to help them you know, spread their message.
Harry Turner
You just flow with it. You just flow with it. That's it. Do me a favor. Please. If you don't mind, can you say school for me again?
Unknown Speaker
School? How do you?
Harry Turner
That's how you say it. That's how you say? Yeah, it sounded like it had a little extra twist on it when you say that first time was like school ale is. So
Angela Legg
that is so funny. You say that. So my mother was English. And so there are many times where I can take on different accents just by hearing them. Now my mother has passed away, God bless her heart. But I you know, I can still hear her voice. And I still sometimes have a slip of the tongue. But I'm very, very heavily influenced by European languages.
Harry Turner
Yeah, I'm paying attention I am paying. So look, I have many questions, and I'm sure we probably never get to them all. But I'm gonna begin with this one. You ready?
Angela Legg
Yes. Let's go.
Harry Turner
Okay. Oh, sorry. That's where I'm one. Can you share your journey? And how personal branding became a passion for you? How does it tie into the theme of living in truth? Absolutely.
Angela Legg
So when I was 16 years old, and this is what's so powerful about being authentic and being true. So when I was 16 years old, my very first job was actually at a hardware store. And to be honest, I was just all about trying to make that money. But there was something appealed to me. You know, there were a lot of different parts and pieces. And I was working with the public, which is really what I wanted to do. And fast forward. I ended up for the past 20 years in the construction industry. So I've been in sales and marketing for the past 20 years and went to architectural and design school. So I studied architecture and interior architecture, and decided that I didn't want to sit behind a desk. And my my teacher at the time, Pierre, he was a genius. He told me he was like, and you know, you might not be the best designer, but you can sell. And these girls over here, they have great designs, but nobody's ever going to know that because they can't vocalize it, they'll never be able to sell their ideas. And that has stuck with me pretty much for the rest of my life. And so I quickly realized that passion was the way to go. My father was actually a famous painter down in the Dominican. So art is a big part of who I am and just my bloodline. And so I went after positions, creative positions that I loved in the interior design space, and just grew from there. But I quickly learned that As a sales associate, or as a designer, as somebody who is looked at, to give visual and creative weight, you have to look that part. And I realized that very, very early on. And so I started to dress the part, I started to act the part and people thought I was a manager or the owner, and all these things. And so it was really then I was understanding to the power. You know, when I was 10 years old, I was building my personal brand. But when I got into, you know, the workforce, I realized how powerful it was. And I was walking one day and one of my clients had stopped me, I'd already quit a job. One of my clients had stopped me and she was just like, Angela, Angela. And I'm like, Oh, my God. And she's like, you want to know why I picked you? And I was like, yeah, absolutely. And she's like, because you look the part. And so like you were saying, take the feedback, you know, there are patterns. And I started hearing that and I started realizing how powerful it was. And so fast forward, COVID comes along, and I've already been in the industry, I've worked my way up, lived in New York City did all the things. And 2019. My mother, which I just mentioned, we talked a little bit about, she was 50 years older than me when I was born, I was actually adopted, but she was older than me. And so I spent my whole life knowing that I was going to pretty much have to care for her as an adult. And so in 2018, she was diagnosed with dementia, I made the I took faith in my hands, and I quit my job. And just a few months later, COVID happened. But it was the best thing to happen. I was taking care of my mom, we were locked in together, you know, it couldn't have been better. And during that time, I really started to understand personal branding, because everybody was out. Everybody was trying to do something to get noticed, get online. And I was just like, I've been doing this for such a long time. And I'm going to, you know, go after this a lot stronger. Because this is what I'm passionate about is taking people you know, who are having trouble with their message, and helping them find their truth. Because what a lot of people don't understand about personal branding, is that really underneath at all the foundation of it all, is personal development. And that is such a hard pill to swallow. Because people are really trying to identify their truths. When you have a personal brand. And you're trying to identify your market. You're trying to identify your why you're trying to identify your truths, and you have to go digging deep to find these answers. So it has been just such an incredible journey over these last couple of years. And I called myself the rebel of personal branding, you know, back in 2020 2021, because everybody was talking about all of these strategies and standards and everybody was being put into a box now. I'm sure most of y'all don't know me, but I'm sure you can tell that I do not like boxing. I do not like the box and we were focusing on the wrong things. We're focusing on colors and websites when we were speaking about personal branding. And I was just like, you know, they were like, keep doing the same thing over and over and I'm like, I'm an opera singer. I'm a backpacker. I've been in sales. I've done this. I've done that. You know I cannot sit and just do one single thing.
Harry Turner
You see we're opera singer,
Angela Legg
classically trained Italian opera singer.
Harry Turner
Can we get five seconds can we get five seconds? Just for just five seconds to
Angela Legg
get thing I had my tea. Ah
Speaker 1
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Speaker 1
see levy grow Conte. Okay, okay,
Angela Legg
okay. Oh knows that song Who knows that song? It's it's a very, very special song on Kelly. Conte Potito. And yeah, it was my mother's favorite song. And when I started singing my I actually started singing jazz and my last vocal coach was just like your opera maybe your opera. So it's been it's been a crazy you know, you can't i can't be put into a box I don't think anybody should be asked to be put into a box either
Harry Turner
while you're talking to the school about life so you know, it's it's not even that we can't be put in the box is that we always stood outside of the box and we just accepted that and own that you know, so that's that's the that's the entire reason why I created it. It's way first off the pipes. Just you know, you got pipes that are that are just invite sweet the love of Sweet baby Jesus in your heart immediately just No, no, no, seriously, no, seriously, like the pipes yo, like I was, man.
Angela Legg
I mean, it's never been. I mean, I love singing. And it's actually my biggest fear. It is, it is my biggest fear. And it is the hardest thing that I've had to battle my whole entire life because I love it so much. But standing on a stage and singing, I can talk I can talk to millions of people 1000s of people, Jeff Bezos, it doesn't matter the Pope, Queen Elizabeth, whoever, you know, but when it comes to that part of me, and expressing that part of me, there are so many hurdles I have to go over. And so I really empathize with people. You know, who wants to come out? I think in like the social aspects in society, everybody is so afraid to be themselves because they're so afraid of being judged. You know, and Erica, what did Erykah Badu say, you know, oh, God, he has this great quote, like, don't make fun of me. I'm an artist, you know, and I mean, and, and we're sensitive, we're sensitive. I'm an artist, and I'm sensitive about my English. And so she's like, being nice to me. And that's exactly how I feel when it comes to my voice, which is basically my brand, my voice is my brand and so many aspects, but the singing part has always been something I've always had to overcome. So you know, I can help really can stand next to somebody and understand where they're coming from.
Harry Turner
Oh, yes, I can, I can tell you very, you tune in very quick, like you plugged in immediately. So that is also a gift. I see it, I see it. But yeah, you know, fear, you know, and I say, oftentimes quotes helped me to stay. If I were playing bow, you know, I can put up the kids boundaries to keep them from going into the gutter. Well, for me my quotes and my sayings, that's what those are for me. And so, you know, as you were talking, I was thinking fear, you know, false evidence appearing real freedom exists on the other side of my fears, sailboats will save us at the harbor, but they would never be able to remain dark. You know, like those quotes begin to pop up in my head anytime I hear the word fear because it's we have attention goes energy flows. And so when I'm quoting those quotes come up, it realigns me right back with truth, because it's easy. You know, it's it's the law of energetics, that if you're staying in the room, the longer you're staying in the room, the more that energy is amplified. So the more I entertain fear, the more amplified it becomes, the more real it becomes to me. So I want to get out of that as quick. I want to get my veto power and pull that back as quickly as possible. So my quotes become just that. And so, yeah, I'm glad that you're facing your fears. You know, clearly, I mean, just the way you present yourself, the way that you speak, you speak with a certain level of like, confidence and boldness like, you know, you see all those things in the description like, I see it, I see it you all the real McCoy. I see it, I truly do. Okay, I have like 10 questions, but I think we might get to like three, okay. Okay, okay. No, no, no, no, no. Hey, my confidence, I will start my confidence. Confidence is key in personal branding. Can you share strategies or practices that helped build confidence and courage in one's personal and professional life?
Angela Legg
Confidence is key. And confidence and courage are peanut butter and jelly. So you have to in order to build your confidence, you have to have courage. So we were just talking about facing our fears. And this is a practice that I have put in place as a lifestyle practice. This isn't something that I just do you know, here in there, and I remember the very first time I've been afraid of heights since forever. And it was my best friend's maybe 23rd birthday, she was jumping out of a plane, I thought she was crazy. She's like, join me. And I'm like, Absolutely not. Not this chick, you know? And I thought about it thought about it. I'm like, and what are we afraid of? And so I signed up. And what was really interesting is that our fears are just so mind based. And when we got there, all my fears were, you know, starting to settle down a little bit, because the instructors were so informative. There's somebody strapped to your back, they have several parachutes that will go off at any given time, you know, it's literally the safest place on Earth, driving in a vehicle on the highway is 10 times more dangerous. So it just gave me perspective on the situation. So I felt a little bit more comfortable. Then we see the plane, and it's from World War Two, it's raggedy, it's shaking all the way up to the top. And I'm like, Okay, this cat. I'm like, this is Alan. This is how it ends. And I had purchased the photographer. And so because I was balling, and so he was just like, he's like, Oh, I've got this great idea. Why don't you go last so I can get all your friends. And you know, video them and I was just like, Oh, you're stupid. And so I'm Alaska. And I have this picture. There's this picture. Now listen, this Haitian queen right here. All right, this is chocolate. I was ghost white. I was standing at the edge. I was little spoon. I had big spoon strapped to me. And he was like, are you ready? And I was like, Absolutely not. And so we went one, two, and then on three, he pushed us off. And that was pretty much it. But it was the moment the moment I hit the skies. Everything changed my whole entire my whole entire existence. You know how people talk about how there's this switch in the brain that happens sometimes? Everything my whole so I saw, I saw I tasted clouds. Can you I still remember the taste of a cloud. I saw Earth from the highest point or human can see it outside of a plane. So we were we were diving from 14,000 feet from the ground, which is the highest you can jump in the United States of America. It was a beautiful day, we saw cows it was farmland. And we landed and it was the cleanest air I have ever inhaled. And these pictures of me my smile couldn't I mean, it was literally ear to ear and I was ready to go again. Have I gone again? No. But I was ready to go again. Because I was a changed woman, you know, theater I had overcome the fear. And this is what I'm talking about is this is it became a lifestyle practice. You know, it wasn't and just the way you put me on the spot today singing that was me overcoming you witnessed me practicing overcoming this lifestyle. I mean, overcoming this fear, which is a lifestyle, you know, when I
Harry Turner
was in the passenger seat seat, but in a life of authenticity is a life of skillfully practicing living through your values and fear is going to be there every single time. Like it's going to be there every single time but again, planes fly against the wind not with it. This is how you take off. This is how you take off if you're supposed to be that that's it's letting you know whatever fears you face it that's that you want to know you want to know what direction to go and whatever fears you face it and watch what happens on other side of that freedom. Carl Jung he says no one can ascend to the heights of the heavens, less they descend to the depths of hell. And the hill that you're looking at, which is fears it's false evidence appearing real so when you face it, you realize that it's it's not it's not that at all. It's it's not it's like being afraid of a needle when you were a child I knew I was afraid of needles and then becoming an adult and it's like it's still the same pain but because fear is no longer there. It don't feel the same, especially when you know that your pain has a purpose. You know that endurance. Anyway, there's so much that you say it and Skydiving is actually on my list of things to do will not go bungee jumping is and I believe any man should be paying to hang from a rope. But skydiving I'm most certainly I don't. Not this black man. I mean, you and I got to pay for it too. Oh, no, I don't know why you do that but not here. But skydiving Most certainly skydiving, I want to do that. And you know what you were talking about it the freedom experience. This is right before I do a jump on anything, because it doesn't have to be skydiving me transitioning from my practice, which what I'm doing right now is a skydive for me it's a jump for me. It's, it's this practice of, and it may sound a little heavy, but my practice is I surrender to the wheel of life, even if the end result is my death. And there's something about surrendering to death, that allows me to live, it's fearing losing my life that ends up sending us in the path of truly dying. And so that's been my practice, every single time I make a leap. I'm scared, just as scared as anybody else. And fear is there. And it's like, you dumb. Are you crazy? Like, don't you know, all the things that the inner critic is saying, Send me. But I surrender it all. walk by faith and not by sight. It looks like death. Let's find out. I never died before. So I don't know what that feels like, anyway. I got twice the way we go, there we go.
Angela Legg
But you know, at the at the foundation of what you're talking about is courage. Courage is a muscle, you know, and it needs to be worked out, it needs to be strengthened. A lot of the times, if you don't keep working on it, it is definitely going to get weaker and softer. You know, courage is a muscle and you couldn't have made this leap without the courage. But now that you've made the leap, give yourself some time. And that confidence, you know, is going to follow. So I love that for you. I do.
Harry Turner
And so, a couple of more questions. Yeah, I love it really. And Heidi say there's many forms of death. I didn't want to interrupt Heidi, or anybody who's making comments. So I might flash my people don't read them. But I see y'all and I'm gonna get I'm gonna put them up there. So please ask questions. Any questions I have. We love comments. We love questions. I'm saying we I'm speaking for you. But I love you. I feel the energy with you this energy here. So we love questions. We love comments. So please put them up there and put
Angela Legg
them up. Yes. Forms of death. Yeah, keep going. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah,
Harry Turner
guys, I can go deep into that. But I want to I want to touch on somebody, you know? Yes. Yes. That's why I put his questions here. I'm gonna stay on topic today. I love it for this season. But did you know media is a double edged sword in personal branding, digital media? How can individuals use it effectively, without compromising their authenticity?
Angela Legg
Just be you. I think so many people are stressed out about being in front of the camera, everybody wants, everybody thinks that they have to be a star. And, you know, personal branding wasn't for the Average Joe up until, you know, really recently. So I think a lot of people look at personal branding as something that's very cocky and not humble. And so many cultural things that we've accepted for ourselves from society that make us think that putting ourselves out there is something that's bad or egotistical, you know, and it's, it's the complete opposite, it actually shows your self worth, that actually shows your self love and awareness. And I just, you know, people aren't connecting those dots right now. So I think that makes it really difficult for people to, to see themselves on camera delivering information they want to share. It's not that people don't want to share, they just are so afraid of the judgment. And I try so hard. I love making a fool of myself, you know, and I love not taking myself seriously. And I tried to instill that in everybody around me, you know, and it's definitely a superpower because people feel comfortable, they start acting silly. And then from that, you know, I always go back to childhood. I'm a very big, you know, person who talks about how childhood has shaped us. And that's all I've been doing. Since I was young. I made jokes. I made people laugh and make people feel good. That's what brought my brand to light. But now I'm teaching people how to do the same thing. And I just had this client who just came back after many years, she had a very important presentation with Chase Bank, and we sat for an hour we did her introduction, we really told her story. It was the first time she was really able to tell her story of homelessness and you know, abuse in the home. And she was doing this publicly. And the next day she had her presentation and she said that it was the best presentation she's ever done. She said people came up to her and told her how powerful Her story was. She got more clients than she's ever had. And the last sentence and this is all in text. And the last sentence she said to me was I am a new woman, thank you. She had a shift, you know, and I wasn't able to help her get there by being authentic myself and showing her what that can produce. And she was able to produce it, it was an absolutely beautiful moment says
Harry Turner
shift. And I agree, the shift is back into alignment, align me with what her truth has to shift is returning back home is returning to love is returning back to alignment. You know, the physical is a manifestation of spiritual truths, you know, when you when that back spine when that back in a line, you know, you feel it, you know, and it's hard to move forward. Which brings me to the next question that the, the audience asked when a fellow outlier, as Heidi asked on the topic of creativity, how to get through blocks, to get through blocks,
Angela Legg
it's it's difficult, you know, sometimes I actually, and this probably isn't going to help anybody because this is a real struggle. But honestly, because I, I had, after my mom passed, I, I had a three year block. I couldn't, I couldn't do anything. And it was based upon not just losing my mother, my mother was the most important person in my life. 100%. But I had spent my entire life and fight and flight knowing that I was going to have to take care of her knowing that this was a big part of my purpose. And when that weight was lifted, when that purpose had been achieved, I was like, well, now what? Now? What do I do, and I entered imposter syndrome, which so many, you know, so many of us get into. And so the block came, and I wasn't blocked in all aspects of my life. But the creativity part was there. But I was too afraid there was something just stopping me. And you want to know what was stopping me, it was the fact that my body needed rest. So sometimes those blocks, we put so much pressure on ourselves, it's telling your body's telling, you just need rest, sometimes, you know, and if you do have blocks and go meditate, and ask for the answers, because they're all there, you know, but in most cases, these blocks are fully conscious, your body is conscious and telling you that you need to take that break, you need to do something else, you need to focus on something else. And I encourage that I encourage for you, for anybody to embrace the blocks and not feel guilty. I think we put so much pressure on ourselves. And we feel guilty about taking breaks and resting. And we call them blocks, you know, but if we rephrase that, and just call it rest, I mean, we look at Beyonce and Taylor Swift. They just did all of these incredible world tours, right? They are going to need rest. I wouldn't call it out block, you know, they rest and so some people's rest is longer than others.
Harry Turner
As Jim Carrey eloquently stated, depressed, he said when he went into a state of being depressed, you know, he was informed or guided into realizing that his body was telling him that it needed deep rest. Yes, yeah. First. Yeah, you know, and so just that rest by itself can clear blocks. But if these are deeper, emotional, definitely a recommended therapist. Let me say that get professional help. Yeah, definitely recommended therapist. But also come to one of my retreats.
Angela Legg
Let's go, where it's being held. It'd be someplace warm.
Harry Turner
thing I was thinking Colorado can be warm in Colorado, a warm spot in Colorado problems can be the one spot and
Angela Legg
we're figuring it out right now. Yeah.
Harry Turner
Right now. We're talking. We're talking actually, it was like, invite. It was like invite intuitively it was like invite you specifically to one of my retreats. And I don't know exactly how it's gonna be yet but it's gonna be an experience.
Angela Legg
You already know. You already know. You already know.
Harry Turner
All right. Let me Yeah, yeah. Let me gotta hit. Okay. Okay, storytelling is a powerful tool in personal branding. Can you discuss how sharing one's journey and truths can enhance their brand?
Angela Legg
Absolutely. I mean, I wish I didn't share that last story, right. But I mean, and I've got plenty more, but storytelling is the foundation of the world. Storytelling is in the Bible. Storytelling is in any A religious book or scripture, storytelling, I mean, and I think my family, because, again, as a child, I had a very interesting story you guys already know, I died twice. But my family made sure that I knew my history, which was short because I was adopted. You know, I wasn't going to know my whole entire family history. But they could tell me the history from the moment that I was born all the way up to the times I can start, you know, understanding for myself. And what was really beautiful, is that my my family always told me I was adopted, I was never it was, it was never something that they could hide, and they really couldn't. Because I was actually I mean, they were white, and I was black. So in 1984, I finally came home from the hospital and 85, we all officially said, Let's be a family. We were living in Florida. And they said Florida, they they went to the court system, and Florida said, No, it's illegal. Interracial adoption, in Florida in 1985. was illegal. And
Harry Turner
wait, I have I have a button for that. Oh. Cool. Florida, I cool flying. You
Angela Legg
know, and so when people talk about, you know, segregation, and racism not being, you know, present in modern day, my family was at the forefront of interracial racism, you know, in the adoption field. And people were were adopting Asian babies left and right, when the black babies weren't being given the homes. And so my family fought tooth and nail and ended up having to move here where I reside now in Connecticut, where, you know, being a family didn't matter what color you were. And so I grew up with stories. You know, my family told me stories of how my birth mother would come to the airport, and they had no idea how she knew what plane and what a flight they were taking, but they would see her behind, you know, doors and behind big posts, just trying to get a glimpse of me. And these stare these stories carried all the way through my life, to the point I'm still telling them today. So stories are the foundation of anything, stories are what created the iPhone, or story created, you know, the cover of this book, something happened. So it was somebody's idea. There's always a story behind everything. And so that's why it's so important to tell your story when you're trying to get your message across. When you are trying to get people to feel what you're feeling. That is the most important part. Nobody's going to listen to words, they're going to feel them. And that's what storytelling does. It makes you feel, what
Harry Turner
would you say? What about the experience of failing, but not understanding what the hill, a person is actually saying? Because I think that happens often on the other side, when people hear me talk. They feel me, like, Oh, I feel what he's saying. I feel I just don't know what the hell he talking about. But I feel
Angela Legg
because, because everybody, what's so interesting about reality is that there are so many realities. And you know, I can watch that same conversation that your buddy can watch, and we're gonna get two completely different versions of you. And I think that's incredible. It's up, when you put yourself out there, you are up for interpretation. You can do anything that you want. And that's why storytelling is so important, is because it gives you the feeling. And so it's much easier to decipher a feeling than a word. You know, everybody can agree that you're a happy guy, even though we don't know what you're saying. But everybody can agree that you're got good energy, that you're happy guy that you're intelligent, you know what I mean? Because those are feelings, we can feel that even if we don't understand your words, and that's why we love music so much, because music is just audio, that storytelling, you know, and so it's it's it's a powerful space, when you can, when you can have this message that people can hear, but they're going to hear it differently and that's, that's probably that's it. That's a good thing. That's a that's a very good powerful thing, but you're not with all the different realities. You're not meant to be heard the same, and that's a gift, you know, because people are going I need to hear it. And that's, it's just there's nothing wrong with that. And people will stop themselves, because they see you doing something, they're like, I'm not quite sure I understand what he's doing. And then they get nervous that that's how they're going to be perceived. Luckily, you don't care. You know, luckily, you're gonna keep going to find your people and you are going to find your people the way that I'm finding you're finding my people, and look where we are right now. You do the right things, and you will be rewarded. This is a manifestation. You know, this is a manifestation of all of the conversations that you have with other people or with yourself or with God, or whatever it is that you believe in. You know, so I mean, I love it. I love when people I misunderstood myself, I've been misunderstood my whole entire life. And now it's just it is what it is. I've gotten comfortable with it, and you just have to get comfortable with it. And that takes time. That takes time, and
Harry Turner
embrace it. And so what did I did? What did what did I do? School of outliers? Yeah, no, yeah, no, if if, if I can't fit in, no matter how, no matter what space I'm in, if I didn't fit in one elementary See, I could speak everybody else's language. It's just It's rare to find people that can speak mine. That's that was a challenge I can always fit in. And so when I when I say stuff like this, people that know me, like, he really felt like that had no idea, you know, but if it didn't fit in, in elementary, it didn't fit in, in high school. If I if I thought when I went to college and got a degree I would fit in but then got treated like a misfit on LSU campus, I was LSU graduate, I got a treat it you know, sort of kind of like an outsider from LSU. In many respects, when I went in at the same time, my partners were Oh, my friends and family who all went to Southern, of course, because of the relation between LSU and Southern, they felt a certain kind of way. So then I felt out, I was out there. And then I got my degree, my master's degree, my graduate degree. And just like, not every restaurant is the same, not every therapist is the same. And so I realized that my uniqueness carried over even to my profession. So no matter where I would go, I would be an outlier. And so I had to just embrace it. This clearly I was meant to stand out, you know, and so yeah, a part of my path with confidence and coming to being confident is take embracing that saying, I got that message, the message was, some people will hear you and they'll be able to spot genius. Other people will hear you, and within get you outside your mind, your responsibility is not to have any preference either way. And I've been rocking like that, ever since, you know, rocking like it ever since fitting in is so, so boring. Like,
Angela Legg
I just I feel bad. I almost feel bad. And because the uniqueness that we that we carry is a gift. And that has been the hardest pill for me to swallow my whole life. I'm like, Why? Why is my life so different? Why have I been forced to live? Such you know, a different life? How come? You know, my lips are the size? How come? I'm loud? How come all of these things. And now as an adult, you know, even in my 30s I struggled with why but now as an adult? Yeah, it's because we were chosen. We were chosen to turn the clock. We were chosen to challenge the word, you know? Because without us, where would innovation be? Where would creativity be? Honestly, without the people going left by everybody goes right. On the front lines here, people from the front lines taking the bullets taking the heat. Yes,
Harry Turner
again, I say George Bernard Shaw, the reasonable man adapts himself to the world the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to Himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. You gotta be unreasonable. You gotta be somebody gotta be unreasonable and why not? Why not me? And I
Angela Legg
call it delusional. Yeah, there we go. Diluted but the thing is, the thing is, delusion works. Delusion work. So I've got one more quick quick story about delusion and delusion, faith, faith, whatever it is, but I walked my dog every morning in this park near my house and a big hiker. Big outdoors girl so rain shine, Blizzard doesn't matter. We're out there walking. And the other day, lots of trees where we walk. It was very windy in this park is is known for just having trees falling everywhere. And I was like, You know what, Marley? Let's turn around, let's do a different path. And I was like, You know what, no, I'm going to test my faith today. And so I was like, you know, please protect me. So, let's go. And so we walked through, I heard the when I heard the creaking of the trees, and they were all just singing and talking to me. And I got through safe and sound no problem, you know, didn't think twice about it. The next day, we did the same walk. And I was coming to the very end, and in the main path area was, you know, 100 foot long tree top, that fallen from the way, way top. And I got to that point. And some people could be like, Oh, coincidence, you know? And I said, No, I'm being spoken to. I'm being spoken to right now. And I'm being told, thank you for having faith. Because I'm showing you that the trees were weak, I am showing you that there was danger, but you put your trust you put your faith, you were delusional enough to believe that you were safe with me. And it was, I mean, literally, right, my whole path, the whole thing would have killed anybody would have killed anybody in this tree. And delusion protected me.
Harry Turner
Made me break that button today. You know, we call it you call it delusion? I call it this illusion. Oh,
Speaker 1
yes. Yes. Yes.
Harry Turner
I believe that, that we truly do live a diluted life. I mean, how can you explain that? The Top Five Regrets with people, you know, not being happy enough. I wish I hadn't worked so hard. I wish I'd stayed in contact my friends. Like when we, when we have person after person dying with these regrets that I'll talk about the heart's desires. I mean, we got to be pretty deluded to spend our entire lives only to die with regrets. So, you know, when you move into your authenticity, really what you move it into your choosing to face your truth and become disillusioned with the illusion of this world. You know, again, in my faith, it says, Do not conform to the patterns of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Ah,
Angela Legg
yeah, I love that, which is a life time journey. Everybody thinks they're just gonna, like, be enlightened. And I'm like, just so you know, the enlightened ones are still working. Like they're still Rican. Yes.
Harry Turner
Many moments of I thought it was just one time. And when I begin, I thought it was this one time where you have that experience? Well, once was blind, but now I see. But now I realize that you have many of these experiences. And so the more that I know, the more that I realized, I don't know anything, nothing. Nothing, nothing. But what does know is the heart. And so I will follow the hearts lead, even if my mind doesn't don't understand. And that's what you feel dilute delusional is that the mind wants to understand everything. But it has to follow is supposed to be the first mate not the captain. And so it has to follow the lead of the heart. The mind is a tool, which is why I was created last, it has to follow the lead of the heart. And so moving from Head to Heart, we put things that shift happens, we put things back into perspective. And we move back into alignment, you look like you wanted to say something system? No,
Angela Legg
I know. And I just love these conversations. And it's definitely difficult to find people to have these conversations. So I was just in awe and just absorbing the information because it is all very true. It is all very true. And we just spend our lives being told these fallacies about how to really do it know how to how to really tap in how to really manifest how to really build and create the realities that we see. In the present. You know, there's been a lifetime of trying to figure it out on my own and try and find people like yourself who speak the language and you know, sounds silly to other people, but sounds like pure positive understanding to me, you know,
Harry Turner
love and truth are married, you know, in a true, you know, it's certain level of consciousness. That's, that's also the, the, the challenge. You know, it's been always been the challenge when speaking truth is that you can only accept truth, to a certain extent based off of your level of consciousness. And at that base level of consciousness, a lot of truth is gonna go right over the head because we still completely relying on linear thought, logical, linear thought, you know, what you think you're capable of, we use thank you all and so on and so forth. But again, I love quoting Lao Tzu. He says, Only when I let go of who I am, do I become who I might be, and you have to let go of the who I am so that you can become who you might be. It's just that we hold on The who I am for so long, you know? Yeah, so long that tension, liminal space, that tension between here and there. I feel it right now. That's what I'm saying, Here's fears kicking off with me right now because I'm in a liminal space. And I don't even fully know what their looks like. But I know I have to walk by faith and not by sight. So I'm embracing that, again, planes fly against the wind with it. So I'm facing it, I know I need to go in this direction. So I'm gonna go, I'm walking my figured out on the way. anything we're doing is worth doing poorly. Even when we stumble, we still stumble forward, you know. And so we got to keep on moving one foot in front, the other, the only way we stop moving is if we sit down and ain't sitting up. It can't happen. It's not happening. Sister. Okay, hmm, I'm having such a good time with you.
Angela Legg
This is honestly, it's been great. And one more thing about what you were saying about the heart and the mind specifically for the ladies out there, our heart and mind and our superpower that no offense, no man on this planet can touch is our intuition. And you know, I really want your female listeners to really tap into that. Because so many of us are afraid of that. And I think for you, yes, it's your heart, your brain and your heart. For a woman, it's definitely a lot more layers. But I really want your audience to understand the ladies out there, your intuition is the most powerful tool that you have. It's, it is a combination of your heart and your mind. Because we're all we're doing a whole bunch of calculations, you know, what I mean, through our body, and it is the most essential piece of who we are of our genetics, you know, that that we have been given, it is a gift that not everybody has. Men know, and I'm not talking about, but men have intuition men have, you know, a natural intuition. But the woman's the woman's intuition is is many times farmed by man, you know, a woman's a woman's energy is different from a man's energy. And I think you guys really understand the power of that. Because, you know, men, men love being with many women, and you guys are charged by us. And it's because of this very powerful thing called our intuition. And you guys will harness that energy from us, you know, and it is a powerful, powerful things. So for the ladies out there, you know, definitely us that follow that as much as you would follow your heart alone, the intuition that that feeling is stronger than anything on this planet.
Harry Turner
That energy? Yeah, yes, yes, you were talking about feminine and masculine energy. And there has to be a healthy balance. I believe the most of us are seeking at least the men who are doing it in a search, and we're seeking a healthy balance between the two, I took a test, which already knew this, but I took several personality test the personality test, the one and in particular, I'm thinking about this sort of kindness, like similar to the Myers Briggs, it my strongest function, mental function is my intuitive function. I rely on that the heaviest and really, for me, that's that's that sky level. You know, like, I don't, I don't really put it in those words. But that's the sky level, I know that I use intuiting heavily, you know, so it's essential. Yes, I'm following what you're saying. I'm following what you're saying. Even as a man, I'm following what you're saying, you know, but
Angela Legg
You're 100%, right, because our species has both masculine and feminine tendencies. So it is important for us to balance those out. And if you can tap into that intuition, which is what Jesus did, which is what Yeshua did, he was able to tap in to his intuition. You know what I mean? Like there was I mean, he was the best one out there. But as far as far as the masses goes, women have that you know, more, but but he was chosen, you know, you were chosen you were one of the few men chosen to be given this powerful gift, because I see some guys out there and a lot of guys work off logic, which I completely understand. I am a Virgo I need every I like science. I like a lot of things to make sense. But I also don't mind obviously, dabbling in the nonsense because I also I also think that makes sense. I also think nonsense makes sense.
Harry Turner
I would have to agree is that so I can't say no more after that. I can't say no more after that. Look, mislay has been such a pleasure to have you on I am building a community this year. And I definitely would love to invite you back to speak to that community, I'm gonna have the outlaw community. And I'm community networking is on my, this year, it's been heavy on my mind. And like, again, intuiting, it's telling me, like, from the community, from the family, from the group that will try and find the tribe really. And so I want to invite you back to speak to our live community, just, it's gonna be free flow, I just want the community to just ask whatever questions they have for you, or me, you know, as both, but I would love to invite you back. I am inviting you back. So I would love to have you back on if you, you know,
Angela Legg
I would love it. I would absolutely love it. I love the vibe, the energy is fantastic. And, you know, I think people can feel that they will feel that will continue to feel that. And I think it's a powerful thing when people collaborate. And there is this natural and again, this is, for me, this is one of the things I manifested, I said, I want to connect with more people who are going to speak my language, and, you know, website that I've been using, and we're good. And
Harry Turner
I love the fact that you kept going because I was like, Well, maybe it's on my end because she stopped she missed a beat. She's still doing it.
Angela Legg
Because nonsense makes sense to me. I'm like, oh, but honestly, but that everybody, everybody that is the energy. That was the energy that was flowing between us just now that pause that riff? Mm hmm. That's it, because right. It was unexplainable. It was kind of random. It was, you know what I mean? That's all it was, it was a spark of solar flares. Absolutely. Lovely. Heidi Whoa, 100%. And that, that shouldn't be ignored. That is a gift. You know, that is illusion, symmetry, alignment, you know, all of those things. So I love them, I love them more glitches,
Harry Turner
again, I say when to when it's even Yokan is there's no losing and and Sharon is only an amplification of what's already there. A lot of these relationships a they are draining on different on many people, because they don't realize that they're trying to force something to work, but there's no even Jochen, it's there. And, and the eagle uses force, whereas Spirit operates through power. So power doesn't need to use force. So force itself is the Eagles way of mimicking true power. So if you have to force something, then it ain't for you. You just need to let it be go with the flow. You know, they told us from very young, you know, row row, row your boat gently down the stream, merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream like row it gently down the stream and go with the flow of life. You know, and sometimes that flow means you got to flow upstream. Sometimes you got to flow upstream, you know, and just move forward.
Angela Legg
I feel personally attacked by this
Harry Turner
Why do you feel bad? I'm gonna,
Angela Legg
I'm gonna have to watch this back. Because I think at the moment, you were just like, there was an eye roll where you were just like, you were literally and I think I feel like trying to block it out. And I'm like, I don't want to hear this right now. You know, it was just along the lines of, you know, what's not for you. You just need to walk away from and I was like, I know, I know. All right. I have a good time. Why are you killing my live I know,
Harry Turner
so you can have the best time that's it. We moved from a good time. So best time that you know that I learned that and early on this is Morrison good, better best never let the rest of the good get better. Move from good to the best, you know. So that's a good time. But again, love love nourish you. But it also pruned you and so you know, we need to trim, you know, women trim to date into the house so they can continue to grow, you know, and so sometimes it's pruning season, you know, it is what it is, you know, just go don't judge. That's the best way radical acceptance, radical acceptance, acceptance is the undoing of our resistance to the present moment. Just get out of the way. And let it be what it's going to be, just get out of the way. And watch. It'll take you. It'll take you where it needs to take you. You just have to just give it permission to just take you since there's anything else you want to say to the audience before we get get out of here.
Angela Legg
You know, just at the end of the day, y'all being when you get to the point where you actually You are entering your villain arrow, I call it which is you just accepting who you are. No apologies, it's next level, it's freeing, you're going to lose people, you're going to lose a lot of people. It can be a very lonely road. But it's not lonely in here, you will not feel lonely. You just have to find your people. And it takes time. But you will trust yourself. Walking in your most authentic spirit feels amazing and makes everyone around you feel amazing too. So I encourage everybody to just step in that. Even if it's super scary, step in that authenticity, laugh that silly laugh, you know, talk loud, wear that outfit, whatever it is make that content, because this is the moment now is the moment not the past, not the future. Now is the moment. Just take that. Take that second, feel inspired. And then take that moment and use it to really find that authentic self for yourself.
Harry Turner
I'm ready to play the Super Bowl now. Let's roll the dice baby No need this episode with Miss Angela leg again. We really really appreciate you on the set. Yeah, don't don't need that beat, huh? I know it's just it just moves you like right? I love that. But thank you for being on the set. We appreciate you. We're definitely going to have you back. You know if you are welcome to Okay, we'd be in had. And again, no outliers. We appreciate y'all. My mission is to assist others in developing the audacity to live unapologetically authentic and again, a life of authenticity is a life of skillfully practicing living through your values. I appreciate y'all outliers, Mad Love and respect and I will see y'all next time. Miss Leigh as we continue another chapter of his debt so I hope our journey today has left you with more than just thoughts but a call to live intentionally, live intentionally deeply, authentically and truthfully. The path of self discovery of Self knowledge is infinite a labyrinth where each turn reveals more of who we are and can be that this conversation be a lantern in the dark guiding you back to yourself time and again. Until we meet next outlier. Continue to seek question and live in the profound truth that defines your existence. Agave, and stay lit. Live in truth
